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		<title>By: Hoffman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading Susan&#039;s post, I would like to offer an apology to the people of America for driving drunk so many times I can&#039;t count them.
But, for the grace of God, I never was in a wreck, nor did i crash, or hurt anybody. I do recall once driving from Oakland to San Francisco, and it was on some very foggy vision.
I was once very foolish, and once oblivious.
I am thankful my errant ways did not hurt others.
I have this one friend, who drinks so much, and he is not affected by booze like normal people.
He was never pulled over for a DUI, yet, he probably drives around with a blood alcohol level 
over the limit about every day.
Again, I want to aplogize to the American public as to any who were on any of the same higways I was once on.. I have since stopped drinking in large measure, and since do not dive loaded.
I think a guardian angle must have been looking over my  shoulder, people like me do really stupid things when young, and wild, and etc..We just never really  think about what we are doing.
The S/ L has since long passed on all my stupid  activity driving drunk.
MADD sees tragic situations all the time, where some were not as fortunate, and caused havoc of innocent people on the road, just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time
Some may have a high tolerance for driving (drinking) drunk, probably like &gt;&gt;&gt;
Well, I won&#039;t get into the professional details.
My friend who could drink so much and drive and appeared not to be drunk at all was  trial lawyer.
And, a pretty good one at that. Somehow, his life was filled with drinking, too much.. and for so long.
Why---I don&#039;t have enough time to go into, nor do you have the time either on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Susan&#8217;s post, I would like to offer an apology to the people of America for driving drunk so many times I can&#8217;t count them.<br />
But, for the grace of God, I never was in a wreck, nor did i crash, or hurt anybody. I do recall once driving from Oakland to San Francisco, and it was on some very foggy vision.<br />
I was once very foolish, and once oblivious.<br />
I am thankful my errant ways did not hurt others.<br />
I have this one friend, who drinks so much, and he is not affected by booze like normal people.<br />
He was never pulled over for a DUI, yet, he probably drives around with a blood alcohol level<br />
over the limit about every day.<br />
Again, I want to aplogize to the American public as to any who were on any of the same higways I was once on.. I have since stopped drinking in large measure, and since do not dive loaded.<br />
I think a guardian angle must have been looking over my  shoulder, people like me do really stupid things when young, and wild, and etc..We just never really  think about what we are doing.<br />
The S/ L has since long passed on all my stupid  activity driving drunk.<br />
MADD sees tragic situations all the time, where some were not as fortunate, and caused havoc of innocent people on the road, just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time<br />
Some may have a high tolerance for driving (drinking) drunk, probably like &gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
Well, I won&#8217;t get into the professional details.<br />
My friend who could drink so much and drive and appeared not to be drunk at all was  trial lawyer.<br />
And, a pretty good one at that. Somehow, his life was filled with drinking, too much.. and for so long.<br />
Why&#8212;I don&#8217;t have enough time to go into, nor do you have the time either on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Gerry,

I don&#039;t know how I missed this post, and I hope I won&#039;t annoy anyone by covering what some might consider &quot;old ground.&quot;  It is indeed a great lie when the state gives lip service to the saying &quot;justice for all&quot; mantra but does everything it can to stack the deck against poor and indigent defendants by assigning public defenders who are so bogged down by crushing caseloads that they often don&#039;t have time to go over the facts of each case.  

From what I have seen, the state isn&#039;t about to do anything to change the way the &quot;criminal justice&quot; system operates by hiring more public defenders.  From their POV, their job is to obtain convictions, not seek justice.  

So what can the average citizen do?   The way I see it, each person who can should read as much about the criminal justice system and the law as possible.  Your books, like WIN YOUR CASE and THE SMOKING GUN, are excellent ones to start with.  There&#039;s another book called THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE HANDBOOK, written by two attorneys, that I think every person should have, as it provides valuable information on what to do in case they are accused of a crime.  It is certainly not a substitute for legal counsel, and the authors make that very clear.  But it will give a person knowledge they need until they can get a lawyer who can give good legal advice.  In addition to that, there&#039;s also a very good TV program on the TNT channel called RAISING THE BAR, created by David Feige, who was a public defender in the South Bronx area of New York City.

Until things change for the better, I believe the only thing that will help the average citizen is knowledge of law and the system, which is available from books, the internet, and other media channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gerry,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how I missed this post, and I hope I won&#8217;t annoy anyone by covering what some might consider &#8220;old ground.&#8221;  It is indeed a great lie when the state gives lip service to the saying &#8220;justice for all&#8221; mantra but does everything it can to stack the deck against poor and indigent defendants by assigning public defenders who are so bogged down by crushing caseloads that they often don&#8217;t have time to go over the facts of each case.  </p>
<p>From what I have seen, the state isn&#8217;t about to do anything to change the way the &#8220;criminal justice&#8221; system operates by hiring more public defenders.  From their POV, their job is to obtain convictions, not seek justice.  </p>
<p>So what can the average citizen do?   The way I see it, each person who can should read as much about the criminal justice system and the law as possible.  Your books, like WIN YOUR CASE and THE SMOKING GUN, are excellent ones to start with.  There&#8217;s another book called THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE HANDBOOK, written by two attorneys, that I think every person should have, as it provides valuable information on what to do in case they are accused of a crime.  It is certainly not a substitute for legal counsel, and the authors make that very clear.  But it will give a person knowledge they need until they can get a lawyer who can give good legal advice.  In addition to that, there&#8217;s also a very good TV program on the TNT channel called RAISING THE BAR, created by David Feige, who was a public defender in the South Bronx area of New York City.</p>
<p>Until things change for the better, I believe the only thing that will help the average citizen is knowledge of law and the system, which is available from books, the internet, and other media channels.</p>
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		<title>By: bradamant</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry,
The more I read of the loss of rights and the lack of justice in the United States, the more I realized that my conviction to never step foot across the border again was correct. You guys have lost it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry,<br />
The more I read of the loss of rights and the lack of justice in the United States, the more I realized that my conviction to never step foot across the border again was correct. You guys have lost it.</p>
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		<title>By: negmyblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>negmyblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very much agree...especially with &quot; Indeed, God forbid, we may one day become one of those who are entitled to representation but cannot afford it.&quot;  

Just two years ago my husband and I had a very comfortable lifestyle.  We were accused of &quot;disturbing the peace&quot;, which was ridiculous, but we were able to find an amazing lawyer...one who actually had defended two judges in a case a few months before...All charges were dismissed after they realized who our lawyer was...the accuser didn&#039;t even want to go to court, as they knew we would win.

Two years have passed, and we are now living off 401K savings  and wondering how we will pay for basic necesities...Astronomical medical bills due to a child with autism...and I now know that if this ever happened again, we could not afford a lawyer...and things would be very different.

It is a sad day in America when people cannot see this injustice...when people who are not in that situation do not care about those who are...I have heard the comments of well-off friends...&quot;why do you care about them, you can afford a lawyer...why do you care, you have a job, etc...&quot;  Little do they know that our rights are being taken away and that when we least expect it, we could be &quot;them...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much agree&#8230;especially with &#8221; Indeed, God forbid, we may one day become one of those who are entitled to representation but cannot afford it.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Just two years ago my husband and I had a very comfortable lifestyle.  We were accused of &#8220;disturbing the peace&#8221;, which was ridiculous, but we were able to find an amazing lawyer&#8230;one who actually had defended two judges in a case a few months before&#8230;All charges were dismissed after they realized who our lawyer was&#8230;the accuser didn&#8217;t even want to go to court, as they knew we would win.</p>
<p>Two years have passed, and we are now living off 401K savings  and wondering how we will pay for basic necesities&#8230;Astronomical medical bills due to a child with autism&#8230;and I now know that if this ever happened again, we could not afford a lawyer&#8230;and things would be very different.</p>
<p>It is a sad day in America when people cannot see this injustice&#8230;when people who are not in that situation do not care about those who are&#8230;I have heard the comments of well-off friends&#8230;&#8221;why do you care about them, you can afford a lawyer&#8230;why do you care, you have a job, etc&#8230;&#8221;  Little do they know that our rights are being taken away and that when we least expect it, we could be &#8220;them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Art</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry,
     Happy Birthday! I hope today was very special for you and your family and that you have very very many more!. Hope to see you at some of the regionals this year and at the graduate seminar and party in August.
    Thanks again for all you have done for mankind,  and, especially thanks for helping me become a &quot;real person&quot;. Art Lloyd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry,<br />
     Happy Birthday! I hope today was very special for you and your family and that you have very very many more!. Hope to see you at some of the regionals this year and at the graduate seminar and party in August.<br />
    Thanks again for all you have done for mankind,  and, especially thanks for helping me become a &#8220;real person&#8221;. Art Lloyd</p>
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		<title>By: richard dyson</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a disabled citizen and have read your article concerning public defenders being overloaded with cases, not true in Burien Washington, (the same place where infamous Riechert came from), in protection of my mother from harassing neighbors, the neighbors made a story up that I had spit on them, when it was the neighbors who spat upon me.  During trial it looked that I was going to win, when my public defender whispered to the judge, (which is recorded on the taped transcipt), that I had admitted to spitting on the neighbors when that was not the truth at all.  

     If that wasn&#039;t enough, while the public defender, my mother and I were standing in the hallway, this all ways causing lawsuits arresting officer comes up to me and says, &quot;I should arrest you for eye fucking my witnesses!!&quot; , I told him that should he do that, I would sue him in personal and professional capacity!, the officer then asked where a certain witness was, the same witness for the prosecution that was overhearing our private conversations between my attorney and I, my just pointed between myself and the attorney and said, &quot;He&#039;s over there!, the officer then hit my 71 year old mother in the mouth and brought his hand back to hit her again, I slammed his head into the wall and five officers jumped on me.  There were alot of witnesses on my side that were denied to testify at trial and I was told no matter how many times it took, I was to be found guilty my attorney told me.

     Was found guilty on the first charge, did my time, the 18 months later was called back in court by same judge and sentenced again and handcuffed on the very same case.  The judge even wanted me to come into his chambers prior to sentencing without a attorney present.

    The second charge of &quot;assault on a officer&quot;, I did a year and they still tried to resentence me on the same violation after I had done my time and probation period.

anyway, i could on and on about how much injustice I&#039;ve been thru, but I just had to tell you that these public defenders are truly &quot;officers of the court&quot; and for the courts anyway they can get it done for the courts.

Would like help concerning fighting these cases if you should wish to show a concern.

Sincerely Yours,
Richard Dyson
253-332-8186</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a disabled citizen and have read your article concerning public defenders being overloaded with cases, not true in Burien Washington, (the same place where infamous Riechert came from), in protection of my mother from harassing neighbors, the neighbors made a story up that I had spit on them, when it was the neighbors who spat upon me.  During trial it looked that I was going to win, when my public defender whispered to the judge, (which is recorded on the taped transcipt), that I had admitted to spitting on the neighbors when that was not the truth at all.  </p>
<p>     If that wasn&#8217;t enough, while the public defender, my mother and I were standing in the hallway, this all ways causing lawsuits arresting officer comes up to me and says, &#8220;I should arrest you for eye fucking my witnesses!!&#8221; , I told him that should he do that, I would sue him in personal and professional capacity!, the officer then asked where a certain witness was, the same witness for the prosecution that was overhearing our private conversations between my attorney and I, my just pointed between myself and the attorney and said, &#8220;He&#8217;s over there!, the officer then hit my 71 year old mother in the mouth and brought his hand back to hit her again, I slammed his head into the wall and five officers jumped on me.  There were alot of witnesses on my side that were denied to testify at trial and I was told no matter how many times it took, I was to be found guilty my attorney told me.</p>
<p>     Was found guilty on the first charge, did my time, the 18 months later was called back in court by same judge and sentenced again and handcuffed on the very same case.  The judge even wanted me to come into his chambers prior to sentencing without a attorney present.</p>
<p>    The second charge of &#8220;assault on a officer&#8221;, I did a year and they still tried to resentence me on the same violation after I had done my time and probation period.</p>
<p>anyway, i could on and on about how much injustice I&#8217;ve been thru, but I just had to tell you that these public defenders are truly &#8220;officers of the court&#8221; and for the courts anyway they can get it done for the courts.</p>
<p>Would like help concerning fighting these cases if you should wish to show a concern.</p>
<p>Sincerely Yours,<br />
Richard Dyson<br />
253-332-8186</p>
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		<title>By: gerryspence</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish, Cliff, my topics were more than &quot;eloquent conversation topics.&quot;  I wish they inspired change, but that is the ambition of the naive.  I am grateful for your attention here.  Thank you.

Gerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish, Cliff, my topics were more than &#8220;eloquent conversation topics.&#8221;  I wish they inspired change, but that is the ambition of the naive.  I am grateful for your attention here.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Gerry</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Harrison</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, you bring up an interesting subject, Gerry.
Although I was saddened by your last comment to Peter, to learn you are no longer a Christian, I support your free choice.

Linda Shelton wrote an interesting suggestive piece in her comment to your article as well as has others.

There is no question our justice system needs a complete overhaul, as does much of the rest of American way of doing business. 

Are we really the great nation we claim to be, or is it all a big lie? As a nation, it seems we have a bigger ego than we do a true performance level. 

Keep up your great writing, Gerry.  You raise eloquent conversation topics.

Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, you bring up an interesting subject, Gerry.<br />
Although I was saddened by your last comment to Peter, to learn you are no longer a Christian, I support your free choice.</p>
<p>Linda Shelton wrote an interesting suggestive piece in her comment to your article as well as has others.</p>
<p>There is no question our justice system needs a complete overhaul, as does much of the rest of American way of doing business. </p>
<p>Are we really the great nation we claim to be, or is it all a big lie? As a nation, it seems we have a bigger ego than we do a true performance level. </p>
<p>Keep up your great writing, Gerry.  You raise eloquent conversation topics.</p>
<p>Cliff</p>
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