Frolicking with the insane

Folks: We have been struggling about politics and euthanasia and other deadly subjects, and some you who have responded seem to be struggling with the same dilemma that Mr. Thompson has experienced – to understand our sanity. With Mr. Thompson’s permission, I thought it appropriate, to share his recent letter, which I hope you will find instructive.

Dear Mr. Spence,

As you know, I have long ago come to grips with my own insanity. I am, indeed, insane.

I recognize that some of what I have reported came to me in dreams, and some claim dreams are not real – that when you are dancing with Marilyn Monroe and feeling all heady and fuzzy in certain ways, and then you watch her walk over that grate in the street and her skirt blows up, that such sights and feelings are less real than when the President Bush comes on TV and says we should charge into Iraq to kill all those people over there who are terrorizing us by threatening that they will shut off our oil, and who thereby require our help in becoming democratic by being bombed. What I am trying to say is that it is hard sometimes to distinguish between what is real and what is not.

I know the experts claim that the definition of insanity is that state in which a person cannot tell the difference between reality and dreams, or, as the psychologists like to call such dreams, “hallucinations.” But we understand that those who feel drawn to examine into our hallucinations and who try to tell us what is real and what is not, are only reflecting upon their own perilous journey that keeps popping them in and out of reality like Orville Redenbacher’s Gourmet Tender White Popcorn in the microwave. So to that extent, I may be totally sane, since, although I cannot be sure about what is real and what is not, I do know that if you know that you do not know what is real and what is not, and if you know that what is not real may be real, then, reality is like beauty – it is in the eye of the beholder – which startling revelation was first provided us in 1878 by Margaret Wolfe Hungerford in her book, Molly Bawn. Ms. Hungerford had just cause to believe that “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” because she was, according to an overwhelming majority of those eyes beholding her, thought to be devastatingly ugly while she thought herself quite magnificently beautiful.

Mr. Spence, I want you to know that I have struggled so hard to recognize what is and what is not real that my brain has turned to tapioca pudding. I have dreamed both forward and backward, from the bottom to the top and vice versa. I have turned my dreams inside out and examined them carefully in my dream decoder, upon which I have a patent pending, and I have looked at the various critical issues in my life squarely in the eye with a massive assortment of glasses – my 250 strength reading glasses, my 3-D glasses, my rose colored glasses as well as innumerable brands of nationally advertised sunglasses, all in a good faith attempt to determine what is or is not real.

Therefore, since I am not able to determine absolutely what’s up and not up, I have, from time to time in my discussions with you just made it up. This is especially the case when I was popping in and out of reality or un-reality like Orville Redenbacher’s Gourmet Tender White Popcorn in the microwave oven. Some of the facts and incidents I have told you may be more or less fiction. But I am not confident which are and which are not. In the end, it makes little difference since the stranger things are the more likely they are to be true.

And remember that Freud himself must have been crazy, because how can a person, for instance, expound with authority about the taste of chocolate ice cream without having ever tasted chocolate ice cream, any more than a person can write about insanity without having experienced its hellish depths and its heavenly heights as well? Therefore, if Freud is to be taken seriously we must conclude that he was seriously insane.

And some say that Van Gogh, who chopped off an ear, was insane (which logically would render him only slightly out of balance since he chopped off only one, not two.) And Friedrich Nietzsche was clearly insane. According to his biographers, he had his greatest gestalts after the ravages of syphilis had chomped away at his frontal lobes, which is to say that we celebrate the philosophy and teaching of a man who was being strapped into bed at night in a mental hospital and who had to eat their tasteless food which, in itself, is cause for severe mental distress if not irreversible trauma, and which, therefore, renders the sanity of both Nietzsche as well as his biographers subject to serious doubt.

God, Himself or Herself, as the case may be, is not much better off because He or She has all that power and intelligence and yet does not know the difference between right and wrong — that it is wrong to let people suffer when He or She has the power to make us all deliriously happy, that He or She could, if He or She chose, let every man actually see with his own two naked eyes Marilyn Monroe, in the flesh, standing over that grate. And, as any lawyer knows, and I am a lawyer, the definition of insanity in the law is that the said subject – sometimes called the respondent – does not know the difference between right and wrong – a test best known as McNaughton’s Rule, current in most states today. Therefore, God is also insane because God obviously does not know the difference between right and wrong, which makes me feel all the more close to God.

And so, Mr. Spence, I leave it to you to determine what is real and what is not, what is right and what is not, and who, therefore is insane, and who is not. And like Orville Redenbacher always concluded his pitch, I conclude mine: “I thank you for your support.”


Argus Joseph Thompson, Insane


52 responses to “Frolicking with the insane

  1. What if a large % of the people currently in the U S Dept of Treasury are really insane, then is the new President in danger of being influenced by those who have no clue about reality ?
    Would you and Argus, please do a check on that.

  2. ted woerthwein

    Holy shit. I have always thought I was a wack job. Now I can take comfort with my state knowing I am not alone. Thanks Argus

  3. “G.K. Chesterton once described lunatics as people who have lost everything but their reason. What he meant was this: When human reason cuts itself off from conscience, experience, and common sense, it subverts itself. It becomes a logical-sounding form of lunacy. The results are usually bad”
    Actually, the above is from the invocation of Bishop Chaput(Catholic Bishop, in the Rockies) on opening day of the Catholic College(a new College in Wyo), in Fremont County Wyo, where Gerry had his deep roots in his early days in the law. All colleges in Fremont County are not juris-trial Colleges. Bishop Chaput was the most eloquent spokesperson on why the mass killer, Tim McVeigh, should not receive any death penalty. (he was rushed to his final breath in a FED execution center). Right-wrong, McVeigh was over in Iraq, desert storms, he came back a man on the edge, an Army Vet who saw savegery , whose mind had been messed with, he saw kids, in a day care center(OKC–USA), whose bodies had been blown to shreds as “collateral damage”.
    If evil can’t be discerned, and some can’t tell right and wrong, and the difference, then is all a mad dream, where this is an asylum, here on earth ?
    No– people like Tim McVeigh knew he was a cold blooded killer, and
    that blood on his hands, can’t be rationalized away by any fancy Xavier voodoo, exestential blabber, or dream state Freudian, phallic symbols.
    Shock and Awe was real, all be it was on channel 9.
    Because the blood and body parts of Iraq woman and chldern were not with the odor of death in your living room, with visible blood stains on your carpet, in the Suburbs or the gated Teton enclaves, it was not any less real.
    Smart bombs, drones, they were a mission you funded, whether you liked it or not. A lot of madness is underwritten by IRS proceeds, sent to
    the money vaults(FED Center) in D. C.
    Hard as you may try, you can’t wash away some bad things in the world, as merely a passing dream. Bush and Cheney were not micky mouse on the Disney channel, streaming into you Tube as some phantom state of stealthy phenomma.
    Real deal—your mind now wants to process it as
    maybe a figment of your imagination. Rope it off from reality, isolate it as
    a virus on your hard drive,
    contain it, send it to the subconscious, the reality was too ugly to deal with—huh !

  4. This Argus guy has turned it all over to Gerry, for him to decide what is right, what is wrong, what is insane, and what is sane, what is real, what is unreal.
    Argus sees Gerry as the CIA–the big Central Intel Ag….(it is all in his hands)
    To decide what is a dream, what is not a dream, what is reality, what is some burning bush , the vapors of an illusion coming off the heated pavements.
    He turned his mind, his being, his all, over to Gerry, poor Argus he vetoed his own being(in a vapor of time), he
    did a down load to give Gerry the master chips.
    I wonder however, if Argus is a mere literary device, who is part of Gerry, like letters to himself, on the layers of reality(or its inverse). Of course, Bush/ 43, must have been real, didn’t Gerry see all the security in the Tetons when the EL Supremo Dickster came into Teton County, with his platoon of royal guards, and that was to keep him separated from any citizens, who lived in the Village. Cheney was there the “inhabitant” of Teton Village, its most VIP
    reality crasher.
    Imagine, a citizen writing to Dick Cheney, and giving him the power to declare you nuts, a total wack job, insane, if any questioned his “policies”.
    One such citizen did so in another resort town, in the Rockeis and was arrested, by the SS, and thrown in the Eagle County jail, and it is not a dream, unless some deem that is what they want to ascribe to it in some parts of America, as some truths(raw reality) are indeed, inconvienent.
    Of course, Agus is Gerry in more ways than one, if any dig deep into the reality, or its parrallel reality.
    Like keeping two sets of books, or on two tracks, or a dual frame of mind.
    Left lobe—right lobe.

  5. “Good Lord Boyet, my beauty, though but mean,
    Needs not the painted flourish of your praise:
    Beauty is bought by judgement of the eye,
    Not utter’d by base sale of chapmen’s tongues.”
    Shakespeare 1588,
    from Labours Lost
    “Beauty, like supreme dominion
    Is but supported by opinion.” 1741
    Ben Franklin, from Poor
    Richard’s Almanack
    A rose by any other name is still a rose.
    “What’s in a name? that which we call a rose
    By any other name would smell as sweet;
    And for that name which is no part of thee”
    Take all myself.
    Shakesphere, 1594

    Turning over ones being to some other, by making their opinion the supreme ruler, can be tricky, if not self-defeating

    Of course some Scottish Lord would see Lady “Hungerford”(the Dutchess of Cork) with tainted eyes, or the “green eyed monster” of envy.

  6. Any discussion of AIG, would entail the fusion of develing into
    insanity and corruption.
    This was pointed out by
    Dr Orly Taitz

    Because mad corporate executives like Greenberg have now gone insane, and were awash in corruption, their overpowering evil has now washed upon our shores, namely to impact every American family.
    I appreciate it is painful to confront this merger of insanity and corruption that existed in the AIG monster tenacles that wrapped around high Government officials in the Dept of Treasury, but
    a call to your civics to stand up is facing you as an American to stop the USA Government from rewarding corruption using taxpayer monies, vast billions

  7. Since we are into insanity, and maddening things:
    In the last few days, AIG has given out $ 165 million in bonsues;


    Plus, did you know that most of the mula(bailout buggie), in the $ 180 billion went to European banks, and financial institutiosn beyond USA shores. Guess, Barney Frank, did not clue you in, or did others in Congress, and, who is Secretary(Treasury) Geithner’s Chief of Staff:
    An Ex Goldmam Sachs Chief lobbyist.
    I wish Argus would write to his Congressman and start taking actions as a citizen, it seems his mind
    exercises with G. S are key to some balance in the universe, but major madness does not reside with him, it is now well entrenched at the highest levels in D. C

  8. “I don’t suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.

    You’re just jealous because the voices only talk to me

    Earth is the insane asylum for the universe”

  9. I am absolutely sane. How do I know? Because I am totally in it!

  10. If this Argus character, would take back his own means to experience reality, he would not have to filter it through some Gerry prism.
    One does not need an others form of realty to exist, unless the person is turning over some control.
    is that what this is about–
    control over who says what reality is. ?
    Argus needs Gerry as his reality master.
    Do you ,.?

  11. Don’t we all have an id, and a frontal lobe.
    A friend of mind told me the other day he dreamed that he was f… if you will bleep), Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the House.
    I hated to inform him in the broad day light of reality, it is more likely the other way around. Now, certainly, Pelosi is no Monore, but the id is not that selective in where it wanders. The fact that Argus(or his friend) is getting wave lenghts on Monroe, underscores that older men, often harken back to earlier times, be they filled with that notion: weren’t we all young and wilder once…. back when the……..( use your imigination…).
    The fact that Argus took us into his id, can you just imagine what Bush’s id would reveal it the layers could be pulled back.

  12. Sometimes “sanity”– is in the eye of the beholder ! The KGB declared a lot of people insane, who were trouble makers.
    Combine raw power, and the way to deal with trouble makers, who question big Cheese in GOV, and you might be suprised on how many people are declared (stamped) insane—but who are really not so, they just infurate corrupt high powered officials.
    If insane is not the offical ruling the frequent pronouncment is that subject person(s) is disgruntal.
    Well, now there are over 200 million people in America very disgruntal on the corruption surrounding the AIG FIXES, to mostly off shore banks, as the news is drippling out on that.

  13. Insanity doesn’t exist.
    “Insanity” is just a legal fiction invented by treasonous lawyers who think Constitutional rights and protections shouldn’t apply all of the time to all persons.
    Who can show me one single instance in the history of the world when the concept of insanity should apply or has even 1% validity?

  14. I am totally insane, do you want to get my comments.
    I can get priveleges from St Liz’s mental hospital to
    tell you about all the voices that are tuning in.
    I was an Assistant Sec of the Treasury that helped to run the swap program that helped AIG run insurance deals to set up the bail out of AIG, as a
    shell game to foreign investment banks, like the ones in Germany, and Switzerland.
    It was all crazy of course, but easy for you to say with hindsight. I would like to get a job with Larry Summers, since I did quantative analysis on derivatives.
    But, it would have to be only part time.
    I hope Argus can put in a good word for me. I suppose some of you hold it against me that the programs were off the wall. It was a big experiment, of course, but it is no worse that the drugs that are used to now experiment on me.
    I hope to reclaim a high job in the O Administraiton, if not at the Dept of the Treasury, maybe at Home Mortgage Loan Board.

  15. were all in this together, Society itself is what is holding back the realism of the future!

  16. I may be out of line here, but it sucks to know to much! Energy independence for our country has been available for years! We could really F***up the games of the politicians!

  17. Hello Paw Paw,

    It has been a while since I last left you a note but I have been going through some growing pains over hear. I am glad to see that you are still sharing but I your writing.

    I read Mr. Argus letter, and he seems to be a little too tightly wrapped. I know because I have been there, actually I think we have all been their to some degree.

    Fear and responsibility can be very suffocating feelings but it is how we respond to them that separates hero’s from victims.

    I can’t wait to see you this Summer and I have come up with evidence that God is a male… “If he was a woman, he would have given us the once a month “female condition”!!!



  18. Agrus sounds to me like just another confused lawyer wrestling with language, but he may want to check his drinking water. He knows the legal definition of insanity, as every lawyer should, which describes someone who has entirely lost touch with reality and clearly Argus has not.

    The rest of us fall legally in the sane group, even though we may have vivid dreams about Marilyn, wear split world bifocals or think we know what God thinks.

    In other words he’s as sane as the rest of us who realize that we are insignificant creatures spinning around on this tiny planet that’s moving around a Sun in a massive spiral galaxy. Who cares about sanity, just enjoy the ride.

  19. The height of corruption, insanity, and hypocracy:
    Congressman Chris DODD
    1) the largest receipent of AIG PAC $$
    2) Passed provison to exempt AIG from limits
    of retention bonsuses.
    4) AIG big in Dodds Congressional District.
    5) AIG General Counsel was in the same D. C law firm as the president’s Chief counsel(A real corporate law firm–piece of works)
    6) the big PAC receipent of Fannie Mae
    7) Specal loans from Country Wide Bank
    Now , he has fake outrage at AIG.(see teh background on people here pointing out the dupe jobs run on America). All just fake–the Dodd outrage now in his D. C theater of the absurd.
    My, my, how some of those Congressmen spin the public as suckers.
    AIG = a shell game to funnel vast billions to banks in Germany, and Switzerland.( U S taxpayer $$$$, sent off shore–CALLED A BAIL OUT)
    The income of Americans has dropped around 20 %
    in the last year, or about $ 11 trillion.
    I am not sure that Congressmen like Chris Dodd, can use the excuse he is insane, he may be just totally corrupt.
    AIG supposedly owned by the Government. What a joke. The slavery that Gerry has warned about:
    Is it real, a reality in your life, as the people like hot air Chris Dodd( Con-n. Dem) plays you as a sucker ?
    So, what are you going to do about it—NADA ?

  20. Insanity! My, my, what a crazy idea.

    Actually, the lament of what is real or not isn’t really applicable…because none of this is real. There, I’ve decided for Mr. Thompson.

  21. So, Argus is the Cyber- stawman, to leave it to Gerry to dermine what is “right” or “wrong”, or “real”, and “who is insane or not”.
    He(as set up-Arg…) may assign to Spence some Grande El supremo judge on all that. But, how does Spence adjudge all that on “real” people he has never met, or is clueless to as to their life, circumstances.
    Instead, he, in some Net trafficing with the supposed insane(those he brands-his frlolicks), in general, as he invited people into his cyber parlor. Very frolick like, indeed. What if all did not share his views on some of his posts, like the one on the Chicago U S atty, does that qualify as a stamp of insane–here.
    Hey, Argus, appoint him El Grande Emperior on all that.

  22. If you think you’re insane,you should know. The problem is what the ones who hold the keys to the steel doors think..that is really scary.

  23. I am so cheered to find this blog.

  24. What is really insane, absurd, corrupt, disgraceful, and putrid, traitorus, and economic terrorism against the citizens of America:
    AIG has paid members of Congress to sell out America. AIG gave piles of money to Wyoming’s 2 U S Senators and its lone Congresswoman. Below is the PAC flow of money to Congress and political candidates:
    All the fake outrage from some in Congress hides the sell out, how AIG bought Congress to sell out America to send billions off shore:

    American International Group: All Recipients

    Among Federal Candidates, 2008 Cycle
    Total: $632,618

    Name Office Total Contributions
    Dodd, Chris (D-CT) Senate $103,100
    Obama, Barack (D-IL) Senate $101,332
    McCain, John (R-AZ) Senate $59,499
    Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) Senate $35,965
    Baucus, Max (D-MT) Senate $24,750
    Romney, Mitt (R) Pres $20,850
    Biden, Joseph R Jr (D-DE) Senate $19,975
    Larson, John B (D-CT) House $19,750
    Sununu, John E (R-NH) Senate $18,500
    Giuliani, Rudolph W (R) Pres $13,200
    Kanjorski, Paul E (D-PA) House $12,000
    Durbin, Dick (D-IL) Senate $11,000
    Perlmutter, Edwin G (D-CO) House $10,500
    Rangel, Charles B (D-NY) House $9,000
    Edwards, John (D) Pres $7,850
    Corker, Bob (R-TN) Senate $7,400
    Smith, Chris (R-NJ) House $6,900
    Neal, Richard E (D-MA) House $6,500
    Rockefeller, Jay (D-WV) Senate $6,500
    Reed, Jack (D-RI) Senate $6,000
    Udall, Mark (D-CO) House $5,800
    Maffei, Dan (D-NY) House $5,000
    Nelson, Bill (D-FL) Senate $5,000
    Warner, Mark (D-VA) Senate $5,000
    Bean, Melissa (D-IL) House $4,750
    Shelby, Richard C (R-AL) Senate $4,500
    Mahoney, Tim (D-FL) House $4,000
    Crowley, Joseph (D-NY) House $3,500
    Fimian, Keith S (R-VA) House $3,300
    Huckabee, Mike (R) Pres $3,300
    Leavitt, David O (R-UT) House $3,000
    Murphy, Chris (D-CT) House $2,800
    Berman, Howard L (D-CA) House $2,500
    Dole, Elizabeth (R-NC) Senate $2,500
    Garrett, Scott (R-NJ) House $2,500
    Cornyn, John (R-TX) Senate $2,300
    Culberson, John (R-TX) House $2,300
    Goode, Gregory Justin (R-IN) House $2,300
    Landrieu, Mary L (D-LA) Senate $2,300
    Lummis, Cynthia Marie (R-WY) House $2,300
    Shays, Christopher (R-CT) House $2,200
    Davis, Tom (R-VA) House $2,000
    Hoyer, Steny H (D-MD) House $2,000
    Inouye, Daniel K (D-HI) Senate $2,000
    Pomeroy, Earl (D-ND) House $2,000
    Visclosky, Pete (D-IN) House $2,000
    Weiner, Anthony D (D-NY) House $2,000
    King, Pete (R-NY) House $1,843
    Shaheen, Jeanne (D-NH) Senate $1,500
    Grassley, Chuck (R-IA) Senate $1,250
    Nelson, Ben (D-NE) Senate $1,200
    Wicker, Roger (R-MS) Senate $1,100
    Baker, Richard (R-LA) House $1,000
    Barrasso, John A (R-WY) Senate $1,000
    Bennett, Robert F (R-UT) Senate $1,000
    Brady, Kevin (R-TX) House $1,000
    Capps, Lois (D-CA) House $1,000
    Coleman, Norm (R-MN) Senate $1,000
    Cooper, Jim (D-TN) House $1,000
    Donnelly, Joe (D-IN) House $1,000
    Ellsworth, Brad (D-IN) House $1,000
    Engel, Eliot L (D-NY) House $1,000
    Enzi, Mike (R-WY) Senate $1,000
    Gillibrand, Kirsten E (D-NY) House $1,000
    Gordon, Bart (D-TN) House $1,000
    Harkin, Tom (D-IA) Senate $1,000
    Himes, Jim (D-CT) House $1,000
    Jones, Stephanie Tubbs (D-OH) House $1,000
    Kind, Ron (D-WI) House $1,000
    Kirk, Mark (R-IL) House $1,000
    Lautenberg, Frank R (D-NJ) Senate $1,000
    Lowey, Nita M (D-NY) House $1,000
    Maloney, Carolyn B (D-NY) House $1,000
    McMahon, Michael E (D-NY) House $1,000
    Olson, Pete (R-TX) House $1,000
    Pryor, Mark (D-AR) Senate $1,000
    Salazar, Ken (D-CO) Senate $1,000
    Tiberi, Patrick J (R-OH) House $1,000
    Towns, Edolphus (D-NY) House $1,000
    Wilson, Charlie (D-OH) House $1,000
    Mielke, Daniel Ernest (R-WI) House $900
    Huelskamp, Timothy A (R-KS) House $750
    Laesch, John (D-IL) House $750
    Tinklenberg, Elwyn (D-MN) House $750
    Vilsack, Thomas J (D) Pres $700
    Harrison, Stephen A (D-NY) House $604
    Brownback, Sam (R-KS) Senate $500
    Courtney, Joe (D-CT) House $500
    Crapo, Mike (R-ID) Senate $500
    Davis, Geoff (R-KY) House $500
    Fossella, Vito (R-NY) House $500
    Gilchrest, Wayne T (R-MD) House $500
    Musgrove, Ronnie (D-MS) Senate $500
    Myers, Chris (R-NJ) House $500
    Pierluisi, Pedro (3-PR) $500
    Putnam, Adam H (R-FL) House $500
    Richardson, Bill (D) Pres $500
    Roggio, Robert (D-PA) House $500
    Van Hollen, Chris (D-MD) House $500
    Wu, David (D-OR) House $500

  25. Some things go beyond insanity, somethings go beyond musing about one’s individual subconsciousness(Argus). Some misuse of power(by those in high places) goes to the evil explotation of an entire Nation. That is the state of affairs, now in the USA.
    Wall Street fixers, with an Army of lobbist and vast money to bribe, and buy off Congressmen fixed things leading to the financial terrorism(AIG syndromn) against the citizenery of America(U S treasury, taxpayer monies)
    It is all set forth in a report, that fully out lines the fix, and betryal by the bought off Congress.


    Click to access sold_out.pdf

    I hope you can become active to try and save America from this creeping monster of corruption, now impacting all of America.
    Your kids(grand kids) are being enslaved right before your very eyes to this creeping corruption. Mr Spence warned us all, in his lucid book: From Freedom to Slavery.
    Little did we all know, how fast things would unfold, to so bind us to tons and tons of debt, as crooked corporations run
    the levers of D. C to game things to render up: AIG, in all its putrid economic terrorism against America, as billions are wired offshore to the crony CLUB, and some Senators play word parsing games to hide behind their duplicity

  26. Wow. I can’t believe I just read all these posts. My first reaction is: and your point is?

    I just got done settling a claim for a person who spends part of his life walking in a different reality than some of the rest of us, a not very pleasant one. We were suing a state mental hospital that tortured him by giving him meds that were known to make him worse, then acted like he was being ornery by suffering the results. I had to journey at least near the places he inhabited in order to prepare for trial and convey his story to the state in negotiations.

    I have looked into the eyes of a near and dear relative when he was paralyzed by fear, convinced that there were evil forces at work against him that the rest of us couldn’t see. It’s a terrible and terrifying place to be.

    I have a hard time seeing the humor in insanity. I find Mr. Thompson’s post a little too cute.


  27. AIG is an evil reality.
    You are not crazy to oppose all the corruption it has caused in this Nstion, along with the harm it has caused.
    Some in power brand people as nuts if they speak out against all the AIG fixers.
    AiG is a product of a sickness in America in its body politcs

  28. Ducky Cheney’s mental illness is no laughing matter, we can all agree on that, with the exception of his deliberate gaming of the system for cheap political gain.
    Recall Argus confused a Manroe memory with a tube Bush attack, to discount reality( his version of who decides what is real) &
    sometimes people are mad with power.
    they like to control what they say reality is.

  29. Jo,
    So what drug was used to carry out what you claim was tortue by a State hospital ?
    And, what caued the fear, and what exactly were the
    “evil forces” in the mind of the person’s eyes you looked into ?
    You post was a bit spacey in any particulars, as you
    do your , what is the “point”.

  30. In looking at power, plots, and suicide(or what was made to look like one), some might examine the situation on the Secretary of Defense, in the Roosevelt Administration, James Forrestal(some large Gov buildings in D. C bear his name:

    We now witness a U S Senator, Charles Grassley, blabbering about AIG executives would do the best thing for the nation by committing “suicide”, to fall on their sword.
    As some may recall, Grassley used his Senate Committee to target the Trial College of Spence( a long way from D. C).
    One can draw that up on google searches.
    So, Argus leaves it up to Spence to decide on his sanity.
    Why is that–he did not trust any State “Hospital” shrinks, or maybe there was more going on, in the nature of frolicking with some issues, that waded into a dog on thin ice, and MEDS that intersect with putting out the lights of life. And, about this sharing of others reality on the cyber beams, is that like walking in some others’ shoes. Most likely we all have a different reality from one an other, simpley because we are different human beings, unique in our very own comos of being, and existence, experience, and travels on that road of life.

  31. The point is, of Gerry’s post, that his side kick Argus will leave it up to Gerry, to decide sanity matters, and not Corporate attorneys, Gov shrinks, J D’s M. D. s, or high Priests,
    some saw the humor in Argus, and his reality musings.
    Because he signed off, ” insane”, is that word conclusive, in your judgement, Jo Hanna Read. ?

  32. It was sad to read the story of “Marvin –popcorn– Sutton”, a moonshiner in the hills of Tenn. Recently, he took his life
    as he was facing declining health(at only age of 62), and a federal prison sentence for moonshing, of having 850 gallons of moonshine in his old run down bus.

    Reported in the Wall Street Journal, and:

    I knew a fellow, who rather than go to jail(fed pokey) for over 5 years, drank himself into the grave(@ 45)
    He had been a director of a dinky bank in Wyoming(too small for most to care one iota about), who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time(a grad of the State Law School, J D, etc, as the rigs were shut down, and a lot of Wyoming was facing a meltdown in the 1980’s.(crash of oil commodity prices to rock bottom)
    He never got any AIG bailouts, or loads of money(billions) for some bad decisions on some small banks in the sticks.
    Poor old “popcorn” Sutton, just never adjusted to the so called modern world.
    As the WSJ reported:
    Ms Pam Sutton “discovered her husband in his green Ford Fairlane. He called it his three jug car, she told AP because he gave three jugs of liquor for it.”
    He was probably a lot more honest than all the AIG executives combined—in their London financial service exploits
    Modern day moonshing,
    METH, it is out of control in many rural areas, as a lost generation, is at risk, in America, as the AIG executives in London, suck the very blood out of American kitties, to leave some areas of America high and dry.
    The leaders, so called politicans, are drugged with mad power, unable to confront this corporate monster, who is devouring America.
    Some can speak of drugs in hospitals, or drugs in this ward or that.
    METH is all over the streets–landscapes– of areas, where there is little hope, little employment opportunity, little sharing in any American dream.
    There is no bailout packages for that large segement of society–the forgotten Americans, the largest substrata class in the USA, that is growing at an alarming rate.
    By the way, I am not speaking of ritzy Teton, the fly in, jet port for the int’l jet set, or movie stars, or the uber rich, Banker clubs.
    Most areas are very much unlike Teton glitz, but maybe you just were unaware of that “reality”,
    it is not pretty.

  33. There are no such things as “side” effects from the mind altering drugs forced upon “mental” patients,the elderly in nursing homes,etc..unless sui”side” is considered a side effect. I watched my daughter experimented with by the “pharmaceutical” plethora of killer medicines. Can anyone correctly identify the chemicals with are “imbalanced” in the brain? My daughter died Jan.20,2009 after the psyciatric “experts” exploited her for 10 years. What is the accepted qualification for “insanity” this year? Or how about simply mental illness? It’s okay to be a little crazy, a little eccentric, and blatantly criminally insane if you are an elected official or a medical professional – no one has the right to question your authority or behavior then,do they? “Insanity” is for anyone .. Just don’t get “diagnosed” because then you are a candidate for “One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest”

  34. Maybe some corporate executives believe I am insane, but I believe AIG has a fiduciary duty to America, and not to its milking machine ways.
    AIG is blind to duty.
    it shoewe it is a traitor to America.
    Why are so many corporate executives, and their Senate mouth- pieces
    promoting breaches of duty, to hurt America.
    money in the pockets of traitors, is the Judas sell out, and it is flat out wrong, not right.
    But, now the Senate supports Judas sell outs to allow their money, as if that is the false God, sell out politicians worship, as they gran on to large wads of PAC $$$$, in bootstep with their Judas sell out cabal.

  35. If insanity is not knowing the difference between “right”, and “wrong”, as so asserted by
    Argus(Gerry his sanity filters), then who decides, ultimately what is “right” in assorted situations: God, the lower court judge, a club of officers of the court, the Congress, AIG executives, the biggest PAC $$ donors ?
    It seems power has some nexis to those who claim what is “right”. For instance, the old saying:
    “might makes right”.
    And, then are all others “insane”(i. e “wrong”) if not “right”, according to the might forces(the big Cheese deciders).
    But, there was no deep context in the Argus, renditions, like dead bodies, in a ditch in the jungles, maybe wearing the habits of Catholic nuns, who were into “liberation theology”.
    Hilter proclaimed he was “right”, so do a lot of those who control the levers of power.
    AIG claims it is right, it can shift billions to Uncle sucker, and in essence all your suckers(citizens), are deadly wrong insane, if one goes for this line in the sand, no grey areas, when one cuts through the Argus duality of this paradox, life, death, limbo, as Argus sets up God for the fall guy, claiming “God is insane”, and it is Argus(via Gerry-world), that ultimately rules what is truly “right”.
    Is that called a leap of juris-faith, or some cornoration in the netherworld of Blawg kings. Notice Argus is a lawyer, not by coincidence.

  36. And, if you are a kid, who moves around a lot, and is on soft drinks, lot of cans of those, & lots of energy, then your are a candidate to get on the Ritalin express, from 3rd grade.

    Maybe all of us are just guinea pigs for the DRUG Empires ? I hate to admit it, AIG so raised my blood pressure, I had to go to a doctor and get some blood pressure control MEDS.
    I tried diet stuff, I tried exercise, but AIG has flipped me out in terms of raising my blood pressure off the charts.
    Maybe I would be better off not to read the news, and turn off all T. V’s, and retreat from the world of
    the power cabals.

  37. ” In God we Trust”, is put on all bills, because we know the Fed, and most of the Gov, and AIG is corrupt as hell.
    Not only that, AIG is out to make your life hell, and some are now afraid there are not a large enough drug supplies to keep the U S populace sedated .

  38. The March 18, 2009 post(above) on the money AIG floats in D. C (etc) is not complete.
    It notes only a small part of the money AIG floated for Rangel’s benefit(quid pro quo).
    He is now under a House Congressional ethics investigation.
    It will be a joke(a total white wash sham) to protect the culture of corruption, pay for play games in D. C.(AIG exhibit No 1)


    Except this time AIG’s pay for play exploits were very damaging to America, and undermined the entire fabric of the Nation, & its economic well being.
    AIG shook down Congressmen by floating money for favors, AIG is shaking down the Nation on $ 160 billion, it is shaking down people on the $160 in bonuses.
    Charles Rangel might be clueless as to what a credit swap default is , the corporate structure of AIG, its London operations, the people who are shaking down for retention bonuses, what they did.(their acts of betrayl and worst, and he is doing a big P. R diversion now.)
    All people like Rangel care about is AIG booty floated, and why he was not indicted like Ted Stevens is shocking.
    But, now the Stevens’ convictions are in jepordary of being overturned on appeal.(the D. C white collar Bar working its magic for the powerful)
    Is Argus, and Gerry doing a high 5’s on some presumption of innocent on Rangel, and AIG, and this sewer of D. C corruption ?
    It makes the ILL–ex– Gov stuff look like kids play, as if corruption of the most damaging nature to America is given rubber stamps, par for the course, and AOK, and where are the members of the Bar to speak out, are they jealous they are not part of some bonsus pool, and part of that dip into the shakedown clique ?
    Frolicking with power gone mad does have its support groups in the strangest of places. Big money for the white collar Bar clubs.

  39. Slovak-

    Geodon. It had horrible side effects which were known to my client’s therapist and family. The hospital refused to accept any input from them.

    I’m not sure what you are asking about the fear my relative experienced. I guess I think his fear was caused by his illness. It was very painful to sit with him through that fear.

    I love and respect Gerry, but why do you think he (or anyone else in particular) should be the ultimate arbitrar of “sanity matters”? I doubt that he would welcome that role.

  40. Wouldn’t you know it the one AIG guy who was in for the big AIG bonus(over $ 6 million):
    A corporate lawyer in the AIG financial service products division, AKA swap dealers in toxic paper, which were debt bombs to explode in the face of America:


    The guy was a real big swap, dealer wheeler.
    Now, his big mansion in Conn(where Dodd has his pad) is being guarded by private security guards(Blackwater like on the job, guns in hand)
    Wouldn’t you figure, a swamp corporate lawyer, who is dealing in more shake downs as uncle Sammy seems unable to protect itself from such sharks.
    It is, in effect, like Dodd(Senator from Conn) is saying; bend over Uncle Sammy, an AIG corporate swap lawyer is going to stick it to you.
    Over 74 other swappers at AIG got over a million buck bonsus, and now AIG lawyers (outhouse–who charge over $ 1,000/ hr ) are suing Uncle Sammy becasue it is defenseless to defend itself against the wave of AIG sharks, who see blood in the water, an easy prey.
    Uncle Sammy, the sucker, made a prey from AIG ESQ swap sharks.
    ya, where is Mr win it all, the booby prize, now to stand up for the United States of America, and the buddies of Argus ??
    Say, what trial expereince did Obama and Biden ever have against standing up against corporate sharks ?
    Whose side are they really on, may we dare ask, and Argus, you say you are a lawyer, could you get off of your Monroe wet dreams, per chance, and
    maybe drop into some hard core reality, facing America, if it is not bothering, you and all your meter runners.

  41. Gerry does his “just penality” for bankers, and then, zamo: the head AIG swap lawyer is pulling in over $ 6 million in bonsues.(greased by the Conn Senator Dodd).
    Some penality, they just get vast millions for sabotaging America, like rewards for floating toxic paper, as if they can game the entire Nation as a class of suckers, and laugh at Obama, Joe Biden, the Dem party, who does its fake outrage, like, they are shocked.
    they were so shocked they were filling up their PAC coffers with AIG money(big wads, a back scratch).
    But, frolicking with treason, and betrayal is more like the reality in some high places, but are those put off bounds to be dealt with in a justice system that makes AIG sharks accountable, or is their protecting servcie at the highst level of the Political Clubs.(DEM party, and its fixers)

  42. Who are the Army of AIG corporate lawyers, who have so drilled into the USA treasury to drain it, of vast billions, and engaged in other AIG activity ?
    Well, one is Barbara Angus, who used to be in the Bush Administration as head of the U S Dept of Treasury tax policy, who is a big AIG lobbyist to fix things to AIG’s advantage.(reference WSJ p.A-6 3/3/09)
    Then of course, other big corporate D. C law firms are on the AIG doles to fix things, in assorted ways.
    The head of the IRS, or Sec of Treasury was confirmed by the Senate despite being an admitted tax cheat, too good to pay USA taxes, imposed, by law, on millions of Americans. (double standard Timmy)The ex CEO of AIG, Greenberg(a vile hater of lawyers for ordinary Americans) was bragging how he had contacted Tim Geithner to get things rolling( this was before Obama was even elected). That was on the Charlie Rose show, where that T. V mouthpiece admitted he was a big buddy of Hank Grennberg ex CEO of AIG.
    These people are not on your side—as an ordinary american taxpaying citizen.
    You probably know that, of course. If Obama don’t get this straighten out for ordinary Americans, ASAP, AIG will be his Katrina.

  43. Because it matters,
    The ex General Counsel of AIG joined
    Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman, a giant corporate law firm, in 2006, as noted in market watch:


    FROM WSJ LAW blog: AIG today(Sept 2006) named Anastasia Kelly its general counsel and senior regulatory and compliance officer. Kelly was most recently GC of MCI/WorldCom, which she left earlier this year after the company’s merger with Verizon. Prior to MCI/WorldCom, Kelly did GC stints at Sears Roebuck and Fannie Mae. Before all of that, Stasia — as she’s known to her friends — was a partner at Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering in Washington, D.C. (where Obama’s main attoney in the White House took up residence in D. C.)

    And, AIG used Sullivan and Cromwell(NYC) in its bail out stints

    In reading Obama’s book, did any see any law suit in a court, where he stood up for some ordinary citizen. I looked at his book “Audacity…”, i saw nothing where he stood up in court for some ordinary U S citizen, he recounted nothing on that, nada.
    The audacity of it all, truly staggering, but I knew Lincoln(from a great deal of study). Obama is no Lincoln.
    honest Ab freed the slaves, is the O Administration enslaving most people in America with this cascade of large corporate law firms manipulating things to drill into the U S treasury, and make you kids the suckers who bear the trillions in debt ?
    See Spence book: “From Freedom to Slavery”, and his other books, that highlight what is happening in America.
    Thus, AIG watch is necessary in the larger course of events, facing our Nation, and its citizens.
    AIG gave more money to Obama, than any other politican.
    AIG does not equal change for the good of ordinary citizens, it reflects that AIG will be Obama’s katrina, if he does not deal with this corporate monster to make it accountable, and his actions will speak louder than words, as we all are watching this unfold, real time: 2009

  44. Imagine if you electrical appliances of any cellphones burning your blah,blah,blah,media “expert”instilling popular thought control upon that microwaved portion of your brain. Just try really hard to imagine..silence. Maybe it will allow free thought to enter your burdened, beaten masses living in your skull. Overkill? Is this the formula for the mass mind manipulation pounded upon those most susceptible to suggestive brainwashing? Head em up, move em on.. drive em into their padded corrals with just a snap of the whip. Conditioning.. careful or random? You choose.. Or is it too late for choices, are you a servant of the most high order of the Meglamaniac Mind Disassociation? Don’t you dare try to “think”. What do you know,anyway?”Put that hand down, there will be NO questions asked!” “Just do as I say, not as I do.”
    Think about it, little rodents, chew on “that”,no, chew here, no over there, no chewing allowed…ha,ha..
    Take back your’s a terrible thing to lose..
    “As a man thinketh..boy are you confused.
    Like I said, “overkill”.. “overdrive”…wait for the “snap” of society as a the silence I can hear it.

  45. I am insane and I love your website.

  46. My Dear Remy at March 16: you seek to prove conclusively that God is male on the basis that men do not experience menses. Tut, tut, tut. Now I can not only dislodge your belief but prove either opposite –that God is either female or both male and female with this simple observation about menses: women experience it once a month for purpose of procreation while I have known many men who are in that “frame of mind” 365 days a year for no good reason at all. Call me Remy, I’ve been trying to reach you. Remember, Im heading your way this weekend. Pick a place for lunch Saturday.

  47. Good point, Jerrye, all the minds microwaved, like Redenbacker kernels, in this digital cell age, now you add a whole other dimension besides psycho tropic chemicals/ drugs, now we are zapped over the cell networks. Why even Orville Redenbaker’s
    popcorn kernels were dipped in chemicals known to cause lung cancer.
    I hate to bring this up in
    view of Argus’ latest prayers to his new savior.
    Should we all retreat to the
    Nah, I still like the popcorn
    so, will tough it out, in this maddening cell– network of digital cross currents.

  48. Senator Grassley, a powerful U S Senator, implored AIG employees to commit “suicide”.
    That is a heated subject on this site, the exit, the Adious, so long world.
    When confronted with his
    hasty hate, Chuck Grassley merely gave some stupid brush off.
    He can’t separate good employees, from the ones who caused the mess, and maybe at the heart of the meltdown.
    Now, the blow back; an AIG employee wrote a letter to the AIG CEO, his I quit letter, most enlightening.
    It is noted:

    While Senator Grassley got his grandstanding fury of P R hate spread all over the news, he and other Senators have done nothing to go to the heart of the problem, and just plays games, mostly to mislead the American taxpayers. If there were real bad apples at AIG why has Grassley allowed them to go into the shadows of Wall Street or London’s casino halls, the big get away ?
    Instead, he sticks his Senate knife in the backs of good employees, and ignored the real problems.
    That is what the U S Senate has become a total circus, a charade drivng American into a sea of debt, like when Rome burned and corrupt politicans fiddled.
    It was noted here that Grassley’s Committee attacked Mr Spence over his trial College, largely spreading lies, misleading the press, and granstaning to get headlines. His forte: retaliation, for some corporate master. Is this a pattern in his bad faith in dealing with so many matters, misusing his raw power, and hurting America. Where was Senator Grassley when the sea of credit swap defaults took flight, and were the hidden time bombs to go off(tick tick) to damage the entire financial system of the World.
    He was asleep, in some dopey D. C game, trolling for PAC money, ignoring most problems, and ignoring most of what has gone on in America, impacting U S citizens.
    The voters of Iowa might wake up, they have sent a menace to society to the U S Senate.

  49. Well, if a microwave can fry an egg, or a corn kernel, does it do anything to the brain tissues, and related ?
    After all, some have very thick skulls. I have been told that i have a thick skull, even at times a numb skull.

    If a person is insane, can he discern he is not sane ?
    However, some brain DOC is really concerned;

    Electromagentic radiation is abounding at great leaps, in the world.
    Energy(the genesis of thoughs) in the brain is a combination of chemcial process, and an electrical process in the dimension of the cellular-neuro networks, synaptic transmissions.
    I am fairly wired in, with computers, cell phones, and the latest state of the art gadgets, high end bytes.
    If I need to check a word, or an event, of course googles is but a tab, away.
    However in this sea of electricity, how it affects the cellular makeup is up in the air in some circles.
    Ever see that add;
    This is your brain;
    this is your brain on drugs, showing an egg being fryed.(a visual grabber)
    I won’t win any Nobel Prizes in chemistry, or neuro-science.
    I simply don’t know.
    I so far have not gone insane, in using all these gadgets, or have I developed cancer in the brain, at least that is the current state of prognosis, or so it seems.
    Ocassionally, I get a bad case of pain in the ankles, or knees on long hikes.

    It is most interesting that Argus has been doing a lot of microwaving, so much so he has fingered Redenbacher as his Healer(the guru at large) of the world.
    For instance:
    Microwaves: They will cook your popcorn in just a few minutes! (PRESTO) Microwaves in space are used by astronomers to learn about the structure of nearby galaxies, and our own Milky Way

    The Army is coming out with a new ray gun, like the ones we saw in the Buck Rogers movies, that will destroy tanks(zap with a ray), and of course we see Star War Lasers, being deployed in missile research.
    Most of the fed research money goes to weapons research, not as much to study the human brain, although
    that is improving under the change in regime. Since Argus is a lawyer,
    he has other lawyers vouching that he is not insane, although must we wonder if that is just professional courtesy.
    Should we be asking: how much is he using microwaves. After all,
    Jerrye kind of waded into this area. But, like all of us, we are in a big electrical grid, welcome to progress(or sorta).
    I hear my cell phone with a chicken squaking sounds, so gota run. So, I can offer no final conclusion on the state of Argu’s mind, or the electrial grid he is hooked up to.

  50. In order for a corn kernel to pop into a full blown pop corn, the moisture content has to be below 14 %, and this means leaving the corn on the husk much longer, sometimes into the winter.
    Not that it is my motive to add some liturgical meaning to matters.
    But, it does strike me, that Argus left it blank on why Redenbacher was his
    go to guy on prayers.
    When one tabbed into the “tagged”, it showed some site where some guy was really miffed that the popcorn bag caught fire, and ruined the inside of his microwave(all kinds of photos).
    Also, the dry corn kernels are soaked in oil,(in the mass produced microwaved products) which has been a problem for Conagra(on some oil soaking practices in the past).
    Just mundane stuff, nothing Godly to add to the kernels.
    I doubt any want lectures here on popcorn and diverticulitis.

  51. Actually, popcorn can cause and aggravate diverticulitis.
    If you have “it”, then it is best to avoid popcorn for a while.
    If you don’t know what “it” is then by all means look it up on google.
    I had “it”, and I stopped eating popcorn for a while. Not to ping, Argus for picking a diety that can cause “it”–(to some) i. e. diverticulitus, but “it” is painful in the stomach, and it has been medically documented.
    Also, nuts can cause “it”.
    If you don’t know what “it” is and are interested by all means plug into google, and check it out. Also, eating peanuts that have samonella has been know to send you to your maker.
    I love pistachios, but now even that is under some newest alert.
    Maybe Argus might consider some new sponsor for his latest try at cyber religion, a la the
    nut, seed and kernel channels.

  52. After Redenbacher developed his seeds, for popping, in a few years, over one billion pounds of microwave popcorn was sold.
    Eat your hearts out, oh, ye crusty scared sword carriers of the Bar.
    Keep the ads coming on the kernels, sales may hit 2 billion.
    Sound insane, using religion spoofs to boost sales, hey, this may be a new break through.
    You all want a house at the most beautiful Ski area in Alaska(in all of America), Alyeska.
    Be a neighbor of Ted Stevens, he is kind of a crusty old guy, got baited by the DOJ swamp patrol, but he is innocent, and he is not guilty, and
    thank God, that in America, there are stand up criminal defense attorneys, who don’t cave to raw power gone amuck, over the line, out of control breaching all bounds of decency.
    Amen, this is my soap box sermon for this Sunday.

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